How To Start A Podcast In 10 Simple Steps?

This article will help you move from a state of confusion regarding what you need to actually start a podcast to a state of clarity. It’s full of actionable tips and advice, focused towards the essentials so you can have your own podcast in no time!

Podcasts have been all the rave now for the last few years.

Entrepreneur Magazine already wrote about it back in 2016 on how podcasts can prove to be an amazing marketing tool and add on to the content strategy of ANY business.

I’m a big Podcast nerd myself and listen to several ones religiously.

A few months ago, I’ve decided to start my own podcast – the BoldVoices Podcast . The show’s focus is on inspiring you to own your voice in life plus business. And, to provide you with actionable steps on how to do so.

Now, ever since starting and launching my podcast it has been soaring up the ranks on iTunes. I’ve gotten question after question from fellow business owners on the practicalities of ‘starting your own podcast’.

So, this article is all about that and is filled with actionable steps!

Not only that, I’ve actually also recorded an Instagram IGTV (instagram video) on this a little while ago. If you’d like to check out the video in addition to this post, you can do that here:

After getting several requests and follow up questions, I decided to put the 10 steps into a blog post as well, plus answer any and all additional questions I got.

So, without further ado, here they are:

Step 1 = Decide on a name & a niche.

First things first. What do you want to podcast about? What’s going to be the center theme of your podcast?

Also, in which category does this theme fit when you go research podcast categories?

Then, you want to make sure to have a name in mind. At the beginning, it’s great to have a strong name around the theme of your podcast or even super clearly what your podcast is about. You can always change the name later on if you feel the need to do so.

Which brings me to a question I get asked a lot if you should title the podcast with your own name, aka ‘The fill-in-the-blank show’?

The short answer to that is that if you already have a loyal following of a fairly good size (we’re talking tens of thousands of followers), I say go for it.

But if you’re just starting out to brand yourself – or, you are planning to focus the ‘brand of the podcast’ on something other than your own name, you want to probably go with a more generic name.

In the end, it’s totally your call but don’t get stuck on this step, okay? We’ve got nine more to go :).

Step 2 = Get the correct mic 🎙

Podcasting is all about that audio. I mean, heck, it’s an audio only consumption medium.

As such, the main thing you want to focus on is recording a good quality episode from the get go. There’s not much an audio engineer can do with a poorly recorded file.

Unless your podcast is titled something with ‘Life Advice From My Car’ (by the way, this is a horrible title – don’t take it lol!), you want to have good audio.

Think about it! If you listen to a podcast or even an audio book with all sorts of background noise, you’re probably going to get a headache soon because you need to concentrate more to listen to the content.

Make it easy for your listener. Get a great microphone!

My favorite, budget-friendly microphone – and that I use to record my own podcast – is this one:

Step 3 = Record content

Yep, now you want to get down and start recording those words that have been vibrating inside your chest for months!

It’s super exciting once you get to this step.

I recommend you simply block out a morning or afternoon of about three hours on your calendar, grab some ice water and a coffee or tea and start recording.

It’s great to have about 3-5 episodes finished and under your belt before you launch your podcast so that you can schedule the release of them out for a few weeks.

This, in turn, gives you time to plan your next, surely awesome, episodes.

Step 4 = Use headphones for interviews 🎧

Podcast interview

I’ve made that mistake during my first interview but neither me or my guest used headphones. What happened is that you were able to hear an echoing sound on the recording after. No good, my friend.

So, from now on, I’ve added a little note in my Podcasting Calendar for guests to be prepared to have headphones ready for an interview and to use them.

Whichever headphones you’re most comfortable with, will do.

It also is a great way to totally focus on the recording and not get distracted by outside noises coming from, for example, your snoring dog Amy.

Step 5 = Do the editing of your episodes (or hire a freelancer to help you with it)

Personally and due to time reasons since I run my marketing agency, FunnelGal, full time, I outsource the editing of my podcast episodes to a super talented freelancer who works on Fiverr.

For those of you interested in outsourcing, the prices can vary a LOT.

However and if you’re just starting out and your podcast is still on the way to becoming a chart dropping badass, the average price you want to pay for is about $60 per 60 minute of episode editing.

So, in short, if you’re recording an interview and it’s 60 minutes long, you are looking at paying your audio engineer/ podcast editor about $60 to get the finished file back.

If you’re planning on releasing at least 1 new episode per week (which is recommended!), you’re looking at an investment of $240 to outsource this new marketing stream.

Podcast editing

If you are more into DYI-ing it and you’ve got some free time at your hands, Camtasia is the most popular software out there to edit your podcast recordings.

Step 6 = Choose podcast intro/outro + music

If you’re listening to a lot of podcasts like myself, you love when a podcast has a great short intro and outro.

Ideally, you want the intro to set the tone of the overall podcast and what’s about to come. It should give the listener a vibe of your podcast.

The outro is a great way to ask your listeners to maybe share this episode on social media if they enjoyed it or, to ask them what their main takeaway was, etc.

The outro can also serve as a way to funnel your podcast listeners further into a funnel and turn them into your email list subscribers if you offer a special towards the end.

There are many ideas to play with. So, have fun with it!

Oh and in regards to where to find cool music to add to your podcast intro, I personally love finding tracks on AudioJungle.

Step 7 = Pick podcast hosting service

There are quite a few podcast hosting services out there. They all work the same, essentially.

Picking a hosting service should be probably the fastest of all these steps.

To make things easy for you, the most popular one and the one I use is LibSyn (also known as Liberated Syndication).

To register your podcast, simply click here and pick a plan (note: it’s super affordable and starts at $5/month): https://signup.libsyn.com/

After you registered, don’t forget to upload your first 2-3 finished episodes you recorded prior, remember? Awesome.

Step 8 = Register podcast on iTunes connect

You’re almost there! You can almost launch *yay*!

Now, we want to go ahead and register your podcast on iTunes. Your podcast needs to be submitted and approved first by iTunes before it’s actually live and downloadable.

To do so, simply click on the following link. It will take you there directly.

https://itunesconnect.apple.com/login?module=PodcastsConnect&hostname=podcastsconnect.apple.com&targetUrl=%2Fmy-podcasts%2Fnew-feed&authResult=FAILED

Step 9 = Also, register on Stitcher, Spotify, Googleplay, Tunein

It’s the same when it comes to your content marketing as for your financial investments… the key word here is: DIVERSIFICATION.

After all and depending on where you are located at, there’s probably an influx of people using Apple products (and iTunes) or not.

You want to essentially cover all your bases and make sure to register your podcast on as many, different channels as possible.

The coolest thing?

Whenever you upload an episode to LibSyn (your new hosting service), it will actually send out a bat signal and publish the uploaded episode once you click ‘LIVE’ on all previously chosen channels.

That way you don’t have to go to every broadcasting platform but your host will do the work for you. Pretty sweet deal, right?

Step 10 = Once approved, promote your new podcast to your email list and on social media.

Your podcast is only as valuable as it has people actually listening to it. The more peeps from your ideal audience are downloading and listening to your Podcast, the better!

How do you get the word out there that you’ve got a podcast that is going live on XYZ date?

Simple. You actually tell people about it :).

Yep, you read that right.

Now is no time to be shy. Let people in on the progress of you thinking about starting a podcast to actually launching it and episodes you’re currently recording, etc.

Pull back the curtains! And post updates all over on your active social media channels as well as send out emails to your list.

Et voila! You’re going to have your first few loyal listeners soon :).

Finally and if you’re interested in learning more about how to market your podcast so that it can rank higher in the charts, check out this related article:

Oh and be sure to share this article if you’ve found it helpful <3.

Let’s do this!

How to find & attract the type of client you’d like to work with?

If you’re a new business owner or a seasoned one, the one question that you keep asking yourself revolves around your ‘ideal client’ or, more particularly:

“How to identify and attract the type of client I want to work with?”

In other words, “what’s the ideal client for my business?”

If you’ve been subscribed to my blog for a while now or you follow me on social media, you know I’m a big fan of the saying:

This rings no more true then when determining and deciding what clients to work with!

At this point and if you’re still fairly fresh in your business, you might be secretly asking, “But why? Why is it really so important?”

I want to make sure to answer this because if you understand this right now, your future business will thank you a thousand fold later on ;).

Working with the right or ideal client can make the work or service you do for them not feel like actual work. Truly! You’re going to love getting up in the morning because you so enjoy working with them and their cause!

Imagine you’ve just quit your 9-5 a couple of months ago… you just managed to sign on a few clients and you couldn’t be more proud.

But a majority of them will soon turn out to be the ‘wrong clients’ for you.

A few more weeks or couple of months into your business, you’re going to find asking yourself WHY YOU EVEN QUIT YOUR 9-5 IN THE FIRST PLACE!

You’re going to feel nervous, tired, anxious hopping on a call with these clients, uncomfortable actually doing the work for them, etc.

I’ve honestly experienced and seen it all.

That’s why I’m so passionate about this topic!

Because I’ve seen a lot of budding entrepreneurs and small business owners, actually shut down their business and go back to a regular job!

And all, because they didn’t receive any help and couldn’t figure out how to:

[A] Identify and attract the right type of client to work with.

And…

[B] Charge the right pricing for their services and not down-sell themselves, even as they’re just starting out.

{The latter I’m going to be dedicating another in-depth blog post on soon, so be sure to SUBSCRIBE to this blog to get notified when that is ;).}

So, let’s focus on [A] so that your business dreams you’ve harbored during your regular job (or while still in college), actually do come true <3. Ready?!

STEP #1: IDENTIFY YOUR OWN PERSONALITY TYPE. Or, who are you?

This may seem counterintuitive at first but a big portion of figuring out who you want to work with has to do with understanding who you are.

You didn’t expect that, did ya?

So, I want you to pick up your journal right now and answer the following questions:

  1. Am I the kind of person that cares about the cause of a business and/or brand? Or, do I care more about the usability of the product?
  2. Do I love talking to people on the phone, do video conferences, etc.? Or, do I prefer to communicate with people in business through email and in writing in general?
  3. What’s my personality type? Once I know this, I know which other personality types and characters I match well and which ones to avoid.
    1. A great way to determine your personality type has been the 16Personalities test. It only takes 12 minutes to complete and the results are astounding.
  4. Do I want to work with experienced, high-end clients and close projects of $15,000 and up? Or, do I feel more comfortable working with beginning business owners and charge $1,000 for my average service?

This list of questions could go on and on.

Typically and once you start journaling, you’re going to find yourself writing away and coming up with one point after the next.

Once you are done, step away and look at it.

I betcha a certain type of persona that you want to work with has already started creating itself in your mind.

STEP #2: WHY DID YOU GET INTO BUSINESS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Often times when we’re in the grind and the hustle and bustle of daily business activities, it’s easy to forget why we got into business in the first place.

Remind yourself right now…

+ What the number one reason was?

+ What was the moment that sparked that fire inside your chest to start your business?

+ Why did you want to do your particular business? There’s a thousand and more other things you could have done. Why did you choose this? And if you haven’t started your business yet, why do you want to be doing XYZ?

STEP #3: WHAT MISSION DO YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH WITH YOUR BUSINESS?

Have you ever heard that each great business has also a great mission?

If you haven’t taken the time to craft out a mission statement for your new business yet, now is the time!

What are some causes that you care about? Are there causes that you and your ideal client have in common?

Look at the clients you’ve already worked with in the past or, are working with right now. What aspects of their business do you enjoy growing the most?

Why do you want to be thinking about all that?

Because people do business with people and brands they trust.

Crafting out your mission statement and being vocal about it on your social media, creates trust in your ideal clients that you and only you are the right person for them to work with!

STEP #4: ANALYZE YOUR INDUSTRY & YOUR OWN DATA

https://www.sethgodin.com/

When it comes to any and all industries, there are particular client and customer types already pre-created.

In case you’re completely innovating your industry, you might want to create a new ‘client or customer persona’.

But for most of us, identifying your own ideal client has a lot to do with researching your industry in addition to getting clear on your own business and yourself.

Now, how do you do this?

There are a few ways to go about your research.

According to TopDogSocialMedia, here is a way to do it:

If you are B2B, try Googling the companies and organizations you would love to work with. Read the bios of their senior decision makers to learn more about them. You can gain additional information on these people (and others similar to them) on LinkedIn and Twitter.
If you are B2C, imagine each type of ideal client. For example, perhaps you are you looking for busy soccer moms or millennials who commute to work. Create a clear picture in your mind of who each of these people are.
Now construct a list of possible labels for each of your top ten clients.
What label will each most strongly identify with? Make note of the commonalities and differences.
Use these labels to create a clear picture of who your ideal clients are and how they see and represent themselves to the world.

https://topdogsocialmedia.com/get-marketing-attract-ideal-clients/

Next, if you already have a website for your business, be sure to integrate it with a Facebook Pixel!

I can not stress how important it is because while you’re getting clear on other things and keep sending traffic to your site, the Facebook Pixel will do a lot of the work for you in terms of creating an audience profile.

Oh and the same goes for Google Analytics! Don’t shy away from it.

Successful business owners look at and continue to learn from their numbers – in all areas of business. But you need to put your business in the best position possible to make those calls.

Additionally and if you have enough data, you can use sites like www.semrush.com to see where your traffic comes from.

This, in turn, can help you identify on which platforms your audience hangs out at the most which we talk more about in the up-coming Step 6.

STEP #5: KNOW YOUR IDEAL CLIENT LIKE THE BACK OF YOUR HAND

If you are reading this right now and your business ain’t flowing yet, it is probably because you spent more time asking yourself things like:

“How can I get more sales?”

“How can I sign another client to cover my fix costs this month?”

“Why is nobody buying from me?”

“Why am I not closing during sales calls?”

Etc.

All of these questions asked at the right time are valid questions.

Though, most of the time, the root to the solution of these questions is in determining the ideal client for your business!

You see, once you went through all of the previous steps, you’re going to elevate your language and how you show up when talking to him/her – if on social media or on the phone!

Your ideal client has a very particular way of speaking and thinking about things and particularly the NUMBER ONE PAIN POINT your business can help him/her solve the most!

This is very important to understand.

Most entrepreneurs and businesses fail to attract their ideal client because of the language they use in their branding AND marketing.

How can you change that?

(a) Identify 3 big competitors in your market.

(b) Go on their social media profiles (particularly Instagram, Blogs & Youtube), join their Facebook Groups, etc. for the SOLE PURPOSE to read through all of the COMMENTS they’ve been getting.

(c) Create a Google Spread Sheet & jot down all of the follow-up questions their followers have been asking them.

(d) Notice a pattern that is going to come up of particular questions and pain points.

(e) Decide on 3 pain points off all the questions you’ve collected.

(f) Test those 3 pain points with your own audience by publishing content.

(e) Identify the NUMBER ONE pain point AND messaging that your audience seems to relate to the most.

(f) Et voila! You’ve nailed your messaging.

If you follow these steps and you do this at least once per quarter, you can be sure that your business is growing exponentially and fast ;).

STEP #6: MEET YOUR IDEAL CLIENTS WHERE THEY HANG

Are your clients the type of people who spend a whole Saturday hanging out at Ikea or, do they prefer to go shopping at Hermes on Rodeo Drive?

Maybe they prefer to check out .. on Melrose Avenue or, they simply like to shop online?

Do you see where I’m going with this?

You HAVE TO take your time and find out where your ideal clients hang out at the most.

This will depend who you target in terms of age range, gender, industry, etc.

But most of the time, your ideal clients congregate on at least one of the social media channels.

STEP #7: BRAND YOURSELF LIKE THE CHAMP THAT YOU ARE

Now, it’s all about now playing it shy but showing the world and your ideal clients how awesome you are!

Mackwebsolutions has summed the core process for awesome branding up with this cool infographics:

Another component of great branding is to have a consistent content strategy in place.

In case you’d like to learn more about this component of effectively attracting your ideal clients through your content, check out this related article on the blog:

Now, it’s time to market yourself because you’re ready!

I hope you found this article helpful.

Be sure to spread the love and share it it if it has helped you! Or, screenshot parts of it and post it on your Instagram Story & tag me @corneliapauline <3.

Also, if you know your clients mostly hang out on Facebook and in Facebook Groups in particular, check out my FREE guide on,

“How to attract 10 new clients each month on Facebook without paying a dime for ads!”

It’s pretty neat with lots more details and tricks.

Plus, I’d recommend you check out the course details that are going to pop up after you opt in to one of my signature programs – Facebook Famous ;).

It’s been a game changer for many service-based entrepreneurs, network marketers and coaches who have scaled to $10,000/month with my Facebook Famous branding & selling strategies.

Let’s do this!

How to get your online business GDPR ready?

Or, in other words, making GDPR sexy again

Last week, my entrepreneur friend Jodi Hoffman and I hopped on a Facebook Live Interview and talked about EVERYTHING GDPR.

When I first heard about this term a few months ago, I was so confused.

GDPR or, General Data Protection Regulation?

I was also confused what this would mean for my business.

As a result, we decided to shed some light on this inside my Facebook Groups Community, Social Media Funnel Hacks, as well because I knew that I couldn’t be the only one feeling this way.

Here is the interview and all the things that we talked about.

Enjoy!

Cornelia: Jodi, thanks for being here!

Can share your story with us and why you’re so passionate about this?

Jodi: Of course!

I’m Jodi Daniels.

I’m based in Atlanta, Georgia in the United States, and I spent a nineteen-year corporate career across four big multi-national companies.

Most recently, I was senior vice president at Bank of America as their digital privacy expert. I left last summer to go out on my own and join the online entrepreneur world where I started my own privacy consulting business.

Since then, I have been knee-deep in GDPR. I feel like I eat, breathe, sleep all things GDPR. I’m getting companies from one person to huge multinational companies ready for GDPR.

Why am I passionate? Because I see so much opportunity, and there’s so much confusion that I really help bring everything I’m doing in my everyday world to the mass online audience.

Cornelia: How about we start with the basics?

GDPR might be completely new to someone. How would you explain it in one to three words?

Jodi: GDPR is all about protecting the EU residents’ personal data.

In a conference a couple weeks ago, I heard from the original drafter of the GDPR, and she said that GDPR is all about giving back the rights to and EU resident over their digital data.

Cornelia: I’m curious. What conference was that?

Jodi: The Global Privacy Summit.

3,500 privacy professionals from around the world congregate in Washington D.C. every year to talk about the latest that is happening in privacy, and as you can imagine, it was GDPR, GDPR, and more GDPR.

Cornelia: So many Europeans are very freaked out about it because it does have an effect on your business—if you’re not becoming GDPR compliant.

Jodi: It really does.

I think it’s important to talk about who this affects.

We define it as protecting an EU resident’s personal data, but what if I’m in the US?

Why should I be focused on GDPR?

And that’s because any company around the world that’s processing that data or targeting that person has to comply.

If I have a website and I use my Facebook pixel set to global, and I lure you to set up for my freebie, I just embarked on GDPR world.

Cornelia: Can you tell us more when it comes to online businesses and what the next best step someone has to do right now to prepare for GDPR?

Jodi: Great question.

The first things that you need to know is what kind of data you have and how you are using it. You can’t write a privacy policy if you don’t know those basics.

And to do that, you have to know the definition of personal data because under GDPR, it’s a little different.

It’s not what a lot of people think: name, email, address, financial information.

It’s also online identifiers.

It’s the Facebook pixel, Google analytics pixel, or any other pixel in cookies that you have on your site like IP address.

All of that is included in the definition of personal data.

Based on that, figure out what you are collecting and who you are using it with, such as an email service provider, an agency, vendors, etc.

Once you have that inventory, then you have to work on communicating what it is you’re doing to the person you have coming to your sites and services.

And that’s where the privacy notice comes in.

A privacy notice is a legal document.

It’s the document that is your communication to the user of what you’re collecting, how you’re using the data, who you’re sharing it with, how you’re protecting it, and how long you’re keeping it for.

GDPR has a number of very specific requirements you’re supposed to have in it.

And other companies have requirements too, such as Facebook and Google.

So, you have to get your privacy notice in order, and you can’t do that until you know what it is you have.

Cornelia: We’ve talked about segmenting your list so you can have a list for your European citizens and have a list for the rest of the world.

Is this something that is recommended right now?

Jodi: The other important part of GDPR is how you use the data.

You can’t just collect it and use it however you want.

You have to have what they call a legal basis to use it. One of the very common ones online is consent to be emailed.

The way we’ve been collecting consent is going to change under GDPR.

The email service providers are getting ready to help everyone to be able to do this from a technological standpoint.  But we have to do our jobs as the users to know how to use these tools.

Everyone is getting geared up to update the tools.

And what that means is— if I have a user from the US, I fall under the US laws, which means I can consent to anything, and I have to be able to let you opt out.

Under GDPR, I also have to let you opt out but you have to opt in.

And the opt in has to meet a bunch specific rules, and one of the very first rules is— it has to be specific, and I can’t have a prechecked box.

So, I can’t just give you my freebie and poof you’re automatically on my list.

As for the segmenting lists, the email service providers are starting to help you figure that out, depending on where your subscribers are from.

And it really depends on your business.

If you think you can separate your global customers like that, you can, but it’s just a lot to think about.

It’s a matter of how sophisticated your business is and how easy or not easy you want to make it.

I think it will be interesting to see how this will influence other areas.

If people get used to the GDPR way, will everyone get used to it and sort of come up stream with it, even if you don’t have to?

Cornelia: The opt-in checkbox is necessary?

Jodi: It’s absolutely necessary!

That’s what the emails service providers are working on.

You have to have that opt-in box.

The email service providers are giving you the tools, but you have to make sure you have the right language in place.

You have to have your privacy notice there, making sure it’s updated properly.

The other thing I think is important to know is that consent is not forever.

If five years from now, I have not opened anything from you, I should not be on your list.

Cornelia: About that consent, we get so many emails anymore that we forget what we signed up for and it usually goes straight into the spam folder.

So, I see this is as a good thing, like tidying out your closet.

Jodi: I agree! I think a lot of people talk about having a really big list, but other people are more into quality lists that are small but convert well and have high engagement.

It’s not always about quantity.

Cornelia: I couldn’t agree more.

Do you have templates with the correct verbiage?

Jodi: Yeah, I have some checklists that you can get from my GDPR Secret Weapon Compliance Kit right here.

I also have a Facebook group, called GDPR 101, where we talk a lot about this.

Cornelia: Can you give us some background on why this whole GDPR thing came about?

Jodi: It’s really interesting.

There’s actually a pre-existing privacy directive in place called the Data Protection Directive from 1995.

But times have changed a little bit as the digital era came around.

They realized that after 20 plus years it was time to update how personal data is being used.

I think a significant amount came from the digital world with advertising, tracking, and everything around email (stalking or not stalking, depending on who you ask).

As I mentioned, the original drafter is all about GDPR giving people back their rights to their digital data.

There are 28 different states in the EU, and they all had their different versions of the Data Protection Directive. And now there is one GDPR.

Each state can enforce it a little different.

And that was one big part, to try and level the playing field.

Fundamentally, if you take away all of the crazy rules and check-boxes, it’s about protecting the rights and freedom of an EU resident.

And this really goes back to WWI and WWII.

Some of those sensitive information areas of data, such as race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc. could have some really negative impacts if people were profiled according to that information.

So, they’re trying to protect that privacy as a fundamental right.

When someone signs up for a freebie, it doesn’t always mean they want thirty more emails from your business.

And from a business prospective, it’s different than if you look at it from that person’s perspective; it helps to see what GDPR is all about.

Cornelia: It is really important to put yourself into the shoes of your customers.

There’s a human being behind every email you send, so just a little bit of sensitivity is really important.

Jodi: Exactly.

There’s a person behind that cookie, and that’s why they added that line about personal identifiers.

If you really use all of the technology and tools available, you can tell who “cookie 123” is, and that’s where GDPR is going.

Cornelia: Are there any loopholes?

Jodi: I’m sure there are some loopholes that are going to get figured out.

A lot of this is going to be in how you interpret it.

So, I mentioned you have to have a lawful basis.

The one part where I think you might find some is in “legitimate interest.”

It’s about how a business has to market to get business.

So, a company will say, “I can do all sorts of things to get business,” while the GDPR is saying, “no, that’s not quite what we had in mind.”

That’s where a lot of the gray areas are.

Cornelia: When someone opts in for our freebie, we automatically send them our newsletters, right?

Jodi: You have to add the verbiage so that they understand this.

You have, “Sign up for my freebie,” on your website, and you need that opt-in checkbox there.

It can’t be the way it used to be.

Just like in Facebook groups.

You can’t be asking for people’s email addresses to join groups because you need proof of that consent.

Consent is very complicated.

There are multiple pieces and it’s more than just this one simple form.

One of the pieces is that you can’t condition.

So, the freebie has value and you shouldn’t have to get the marketing to get the freebie.

Cornelia: What about existing subscribers?

Jodi: It applies retroactively. 

If you have met GDPR requirements with your existing list, then you’re okay. Keep emailing.

If you haven’t, then people are doing some re-permission campaigns.

But be careful with that.

Do not email people who have opted-out.

Big companies have gotten in trouble with that. GDPR is in effect now but will be enforced on May 25.

Cornelia: What would be some of the verbiage for that?

Jodi: You can say, “Hey, you’ve been a member, and we’re working on our compliance in GDPR, and we still want you to be part of our community. If you do want to be part of our community, click here.”

You have to get that consent.

They need to take some type of action.

But you have to be careful not to put conditions on that consent or you’re back in the same circle.

It’s a great relationship builder.

Yes, people are likely not to click and your list will get smaller, but the people who do click will be loyal followers who have found values in what you’re doing.

Cornelia: Thank you for sharing that.

It’s a great point.

You have to be careful with compliance partners.

Jodi: If you collect with an email service provider, you’re responsible as a business that who you are working is GDPR compliant.

If the vendor doesn’t figure it out, then you can’t use them.

Cornelia: When you have to confirm an opt-in, you have to click a link, and a lot of people don’t like to do that.

Jodi: The part of getting consent is on you as a business.

And people like the double opt-in because it confirms that it’s from the right person.

GDPR does not require the double opt-in, though Germany does.

It’s an industry best practice and it serves a great purpose because the burden of proof is on you.

Cornelia: Do you have a list of providers who have that double opt-in?

Jodi: All of the main ones that I can think of do: MailChimp, Convertkit, etc.

There’s one other part of GDPR that we haven’t touched on, and it’s called individual rights.

You’ve heard me say that GDPR is about the individual’s right to control their digital footprint, and a part of that is the right to be forgotten and the right to port data.

If I ask you to delete my data, that means to actually delete, not just unsubscribe or opt-out. Delete.

The idea for porting is more for e-commerce or a community where you have machine imported data.

That idea is that your data is yours and you should be able to have it, like a medical record or a Netflix movie record.

The opt-outs become a gray area for people who ask if they can market to people who have opted out on another platform, such as Facebook ad targeting.

Some people will say that opting out of an email doesn’t mean they have opted out on Facebook, while others will say that opting out is opting out, period.

I would say not to do that, that people who opt out don’t want to hear from you and that you should move on.

Cornelia: Have there been any talks about how strong the enforcement is going to be?

Jodi: I think you’ll find May 28, some well-known brands will be in the news again and made an example.

It’s a real law, and people need to take it seriously.

Cornelia: This was very helpful and easy to understand, so thank you!

Jodi: Don’t forget you can get a GDPR checklist from my GDPR Secret Weapon Compliancy Kit.

Also, be sure to check out the GDPR workshop if you’re in for some more in-depth knowledge. It helps businesses become compliant with GDPR without all of the confusing legal jargon. It’s very step-by-step. Limited spots available for that one and you can sign up here: https://corneliapauline–redcloveradvisors.thrivecart.com/gdpr-secret-weapon-workshop/

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